i say foreign policy's just trying to get some country to do what you want, all it is. what are the tools? there's not a lot of tools in the national security tool box. there is diplomacy on one end and use of force on another, and various graduations. sanctions are a very important economic tool, and the 1990s was very much known as the sanctions decade. it was very interesting because i think that one of the other things i did at the u.n. was try to make sure that sanctions stayed on iraq. that was, you had a cease fire translated into a series of captions, and those were very kind of ham handed sanctions, if i might say. the most, the toughest sanctions on any country at all, and what we were looking at through leon's help was to try to really get more surgical with the sanctions in -- on the form of yugoslavia. one of the problems that was there, because you put two things together, is that there was an arms embargo that was put on that only hurt the countries that had seceded from the seshes. the serbs had a huge standing military, and the reason we wanted to lift